fenway fucking sucks.

if they built a real stadium like every other team in baseball has done seating wouldnt be a problem.

Waaaaa!!! I had free Red Sox tickets and I was bored waaaaa!!

If you can't enjoy a sunny Sunday afternoon at Fenway with the Sox winning a close one run ballgame I don't know what to tell you. You should be able to be amused just people watching if the moooves on the field are boring to you.

If you want a seat and cheaper beer may I suggest Fitton Field.

whatever. the train and the subway ride was the best of the hanging with friends and family, and dont get me wrong, i really enjoy watching the sox and still do: at home, or at a bar, and probably would have enjoyed it if we had assigned seats. all i'm saying is standing room only sucked.

shit, i even put sunblock on prior to the game. the other sucky part of it was there wasnt any place to get any sun... was under the bleachers the whole game.

hey, everytime I tie my shoelaces I think of all the poor kids in Africa that dont even have shoes.. I know how to look at the brightside of every situation.

I guess my original point was if anyone has some free standing room only tix at Fenway, dont worry about getting your inbox filled up from PM's from me. :-D

Thanks!

I agree with you Chris in the sense that there needs to be better accessibility to the games since the popularity of the team has grown so much. I would certainly lament losing Fenway. They should keep it a functioning park for something else though.

I completely agree. A new park would take care of all those problems. I mean, look at Camden Yards, Safeco Field, the Jake. Christ, if they can knock down Yankee Stadium (another shitty place to watch a game) they can certainly provide Boston fans a decent place to watch a game.

Please. I was going to stay away from this thread, but come on now. I have been to a number ball parks, old and new and there is no better place in my opinion than Fenway. Nowhere else can you be in the last row and still be so close. It this one of only two neighborhood ball parks left. And it is in amazing shape. In 2001, the place was disgusting. The Red Sox did nothing to keep the place in order and they had convinced us all that there needed to be a new ball park. Since this ownership group took over, the place has been nothing less than spectacular. The facility is clean, they have add thousands of seats, they opened up the concession areas, they eliminated the 406 club, they have the concourse on Yawkey Way, etc. Yankee Stadium and Shea Stadium are dumps, with little to no up keep and they deserve to be knocked down. Fenway is in great shape and should stay. If you only complaint is trying to get a seat, too bad. Where were you before 2004 when I used to walk up and get seats whenever I felt like it? There is no place I would rather be than in Fenway any day of the week. I don't care where I am sitting/standing. All I need is a score book and some peanuts and I am in heaven.

The wave sucks.

No, but what makes you think that a new stadium is the answer to that problem? The only answer to that is for the Sox to not be good. When Jacobs Field in Cleveland opened in 1994, they sold out the first 455 games there, very similar to the way Fenway is now. They did that because the Indians were a power house and at the modern peak of their popularity, much like the Sox right now. They stopped selling out when they stopped being good. Opening a new park would just mean more of the same, until the Red Sox are not a major power house or stop being so popular. If they went out and built a new stadium with 55,000 seats, like Yankee Stadium, that would be different, but then you could get seats 500 feet from home plate when ever you want and never see anything.

I still can not see what you all think will come from building a new stadium. Ease of getting tickets is not something that will be part of it.

I never bitched about the pink hats or said anything about being around pre 2004, other than it was easier to get tickets. I am saying that more seats may seem like it would be easier to get tickets, but every year, the team adds seats and it is no easier than before to get tickets. The craze for the Sox is wonderful and I have no issue with it being hard for me to get tickets. The fact is, new stadiums do not add more regular seating. They add more season ticket seating and luxury seating, while keeping the regular seating the same. The fact is, that as long as Fenway is selling out, they will not build. Why would they kill their demand by adding more seats?

Fact, I have no issues with Fenway selling out and how hard it is to get tickets.
Fact, Fenway is my favorite place to watch baseball because you are so close to the field. I have sat in just about ever section in Fenway and unless there is a poll in your face (one major flaw) I find it hard to complain.

Thibbs I hear ya. Some seats at Fenway are great, others, I don't think are.

just look at PNC park... its fucking amazing. and thats almost 40K...

theres no shortness of "closeness" in any seat in that place... and its built on the smallest sq footage of any ballpark in america... the thing practically hangs into the bay

its the future. it doesnt have to look like yankee stadium to add 20-30% more seats (and thereby opportunities for tickets).

fenway SHOULD be 50-60K... it hosts sox fans from all of new england. it aint happening on yawkee way unless they totally overhall.

we need a new stadium.

not even close...

the new york yankees are.. by FAR... and have been for the last 30 years. the sox are just trying to catch up because they realize it works.

Fenway at 50-60K capacity? Ludicrous. There isn't the current infrastructure to handle that type of volume - roads, parking, etc. Then you'd all be bitching about how it took you 3 hours to get out of the parking lot and get back to Worcester. I think about 45,000 would be a good volume for a Boston ballpark should it ever come about (and quite honestly, I think it's unlikely).

And yes, the infield grandstand seats are tiny - they're built for 1912 -size people. We sat in the right filed roof boxes last Monday and the new seating is quite comfortable, and still provided a great view. The new Sox management has made positive changes on an order of magnitude - if you don't like it, there's always the couch and the fridge - it's a lot cheaper, but you miss that sense of the event.

Yeah I'm one of the old fart "pre-2004" fans (saw my first game in 1967 you puppies) and thus I have a longer perspective on this. I used to see almost 50 games a year in the "old days" ( I remember $3 bleacher seats) and these days I am lucky to see 2 a year. Winning breeds interest, winning championships breeds massive interest - it's all demand and supply. I hate the fact that I can't get to the park, but I'd rather have a championship calibre team to root for.

the whole thing is different now and if you want a championship team you need to generate championship money which means you need to accommodate your fans.

I am not knocking Fenway but it was built for a different era of the sport. My first game was sometime around '86 so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

that said, anytime you guys want to put on some gloves and swing a bat, I'm game. :)

the more I think about this the less I even care about it. Much like concerts in big stadiums, I simply don't enjoy events like this as much as I used too. I go a few times a year now and that is fine. It's cool that such a old building is functioning still.

Go Sox