Candlepin or Duckpin?

gaberollins's picture

As a few of you know I have left Worcester for what I hope will be the greener pastures of Baltimore. I will always be a Worcesterite at heart so there is a conflict that is burning me up, keeping me awake at night and giving me the shakes, all at the same time!!!!
Worcester claims to be the origin of candlepin bowling as read right here
Baltimore claims to be the origin of duckpin bowling right
here
Are these two games the same game? If so who truly owns the origin of the little balls?

Either way, I think this guy liked to play.

duncan's picture

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shouldn't your "From Worcester fucking Massachusetts" read something like the "greener pastures of Baltimore"?

I am burning up Google in search of the truth on the bowling nonsense.

duncan's picture

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from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duckpin_bowling

Duckpin bowling is a variation of Ten-pin bowling and is popular along the eastern coast of the United States, from Maryland through southern New England.

The origin of the sport is a subject of some debate. According to popular legend, Duckpin bowling began in Baltimore, MD around 1900, at a bowling alley owned by future baseball Hall of Famers John McGraw and Wilbert Robinson. However, according to Appendix B of a 2005 baseball book by Howard W. Rosenberg (Cap Anson 3: Muggsy John McGraw and the Tricksters: Baseball's Fun Age of Rule Bending), an article from 1894 in the Lowell (Mass.) Sun confirms the existence of duckpins as of 1894. Rosenberg traced the story of crediting the origins of duckpins to McGraw and Robinson as far back as Shirley Povich of the Washington Post in the late 1930s.

duncan's picture

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from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candlepin_bowling

Candlepin bowling is a variation of bowling that is confined to the New England states of Maine, Massachusetts, and New Hampshire and to the Maritime provinces of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. It was developed in 1880 in Worcester, Massachusetts by a local bowling alley owner, Justin White. As in other forms of bowling, the players roll balls down a wooden pathway to knock down as many pins as possible. The main differences between candlepin bowling and the predominant ten-pin bowling style are the facts that each player uses three balls per frame (see below), the balls are much smaller and do not have holes, the fallen pins ('deadwood' or simply 'wood') are not cleared away between balls during a player's turn, and the pins are thinner, and thus harder to knock down. One of the results of these differences is that scoring points is rather more difficult than in ten-pin bowling, and the highest officially sanctioned score is only 245 out of a possible 300 points. (In ten-pin bowling, virtually every bowling alley has a list of people with "perfect games," meaning they have scored 300 points.)

MrPEZ's picture

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This is fucking bullshit Gabe. You disappoint me. While I will remain true to my Too Many Jackasses heritage, and the way of AC/DC's "Big Balls," until my dying day... being a Worcester native, I have felt compelled to take part in (and have rather enjoyed) a game of Candlepin now and then, with my similarly drunken brethren.

Candlepin is a game of its own merits, and stands tall and proud, when compared to the traditional "Man's Game" of Ten Pin bowling. Duckpin if a fucking joke, to be played solely by jokers, miniature dachshunds, and elves. But if 4 weeks in Baltimore is enough to convince you that Duckpin is a real game deserving of your allegiance, you're not the bowler I thought you were.

Sincerely,
The Cleaner.


I don't think your band is very good.

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Wow. I'd once driven quite a distance to play duckpin on the assurance of it being fun...and it was. But did I feel kinda dirty, like when I get in a game of candlepin? sorta.

I'll still wipe the lanes with you Cleaner.

Love, Dr. X


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Ronaldo wrote:
Wow. I'd once driven quite a distance to play duckpin on the assurance of it being fun...and it was. But did I feel kinda dirty, like when I get in a game of candlepin? sorta.

I'll still wipe the lanes with you Cleaner.

Love, Dr. X


Bring it, X. I will squash that giant eyeball between my toes.

Have I ever played Duckpin? Yeah, sure I have. I was 4 feet tall in those days, so everything seemed fairly well proportioned, at the time.

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Eyeball?!?!

tsk tsk tsk...too much "cleaner" rottin your brain? You must have me confused with El Toro...that goddamn mariachi gigolo mutha....

MY surgical instrument is a clear green sphere, partnered with a swirl gray BOOMball of delight.

See you on the lanes. Oh yeah, is this EVER going down?

When it does, you can pick out what color colostomy bag you prefer after I bowl yer ass off.

The bill is in the mail
Dr. X

MrPEZ's picture

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Ronaldo wrote:
Eyeball?!?!

tsk tsk tsk...too much "cleaner" rottin your brain? You must have me confused with El Toro...that goddamn mariachi gigolo mutha....

All you ugly-ass W.o.P. carnies look the same to me. Only thing I remember is there was at least one monkey in there somewhere.

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MrPEZ wrote:
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Eyeball?!?!

tsk tsk tsk...too much "cleaner" rottin your brain? You must have me confused with El Toro...that goddamn mariachi gigolo mutha....

All you ugly-ass W.o.P. carnies look the same to me. Only thing I remember is there was at least one monkey in there somewhere.


The Cleaner?

more like The Wiener




You couldn't knock down pins with the kiddie gutters up.


MrPEZ's picture

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duncan wrote:
Cleaner?

more like Wiener

You couldn't knock down pins with the kiddie gutters up.

Know why they call you "El Toro?"
Cuz your skillz is BULL-shit!

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MrPEZ wrote:
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Cleaner?

more like Wiener

You couldn't knock down pins with the kiddie gutters up.

Know why they call you "El Toro?"
Cuz your skillz is BULL-shit!


You aren't fit to clean a bulls balls never mind a lane full of pins.

MrPEZ's picture

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duncan wrote:
You aren't fit to clean a bulls balls never mind a lane full of pins.

I wouldn't clean your balls with Mike Mars' tongue.

duncan's picture

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MrPEZ wrote:
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You aren't fit to clean a bulls balls never mind a lane full of pins.

I wouldn't clean your balls with Mike Mars' tongue.


You wouldn't clean up a spare if your life depended on it either.

MrPEZ's picture

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duncan wrote:
You wouldn't clean up a spare if your life depended on it either.

I could count your average on my digits, without taking both shoes off.

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MrPEZ wrote:
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You wouldn't clean up a spare if your life depended on it either.

I could count your average on my digits, without taking both shoes off.


The only pins you knock over are the ones your mama uses to sew your dresses.

MrPEZ's picture

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duncan wrote:
The only pins you knock over are the ones your mama uses to sew your dresses.

I heard you asked yo mama to cut yo hair, just so's somebody would finally use "Duncan" and "Bowl" in the same sentence.

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MrPEZ wrote:
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The only pins you knock over are the ones your mama uses to sew your dresses.

I heard you asked yo mama to cut yo hair, just so's somebody would finally use "Duncan" and "Bowl" in the same sentence.


That's funny since yo mama is the only thing with three holes that you could ever score with.

MrPEZ's picture

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duncan wrote:
That's funny since yo mama is the only thing with three holes that you could ever score with.

Your mama's easier to pick up than most spares.

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MrPEZ wrote:
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That's funny since yo mama is the only thing with three holes that you could ever score with.

Your mama's easier to pick up than most spares.


Seriously Pez, it has been too long since we bowled together. I used to love how AMF Auburn would let you get up real close to the pins so you could knock a few down with your hands. It was cute, in a "special" sort of way.

MrPEZ's picture

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duncan wrote:
Seriously Pez, it has been too long since we bowled together. I used to love how AMF Auburn would let you get up real close to the pins so you could knock a few down with your hands. It was cute, in a "special" sort of way.

Duncan, I don't know how many times I gotta tell you... just because you knock down the "10" pin, doesn't mean you get that many points.

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MrPEZ wrote:
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Seriously Pez, it has been too long since we bowled together. I used to love how AMF Auburn would let you get up real close to the pins so you could knock a few down with your hands. It was cute, in a "special" sort of way.

Duncan, I don't know how many times I gotta tell you... just because you knock down the "10" pin, doesn't mean you get that many points.


This coming from the "I get to roll 4 balls per frame or else I am leaving" guy.

duncan's picture

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I think this illustrates Pez's "style" rather nicely.

MrPEZ's picture

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Holy shit that's funny. However terribly inaccurate, notwithstanding. Are those supposed to be giant bulging biceps on your guy?

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