I heard this song "I'm Not Gonna Teach Your Boyfriend How to Dance with You" by "Black Kids" this morning on Sirius Alt Nation. I am not saying anything bad about the song or the band, I think the song is pretty fun. I just can't believe that new bands are coming out with new music that sounds so old. This song could be a Inspiral Carpets, Cure, Happy Mondays, Charlatans, Wonder Stuff, Ride, Stone Roses or any Madchester band from the mid 80's early 90's really. I think it's fun music and I have always loved this sort of stuff. I hope that some of these old bands see a bump because of music like Black Kids gaining popularity.
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I think that is the first time I have anyone affect that sort of uniquely Robert Smith-esque vocal style to that extent. Gives me high school flashbacks...
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We are old dude. The Cure are like Led Zeppelin and The Doors to these kids.
Somewhere there was a guy at some point saying, what is with all these bands that sound like British Invasion bands, geez, why don't they come up with something new.
There is definitely an influence, specifically in the vocals, but I think it's just an influence, not a blatant rip off.
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yep, totally Gabe, I wasn't saying rip off, just that it was derived from a form that never really went mainstream. The Charlatans should only be so lucky to be considered the Led Zeppelin of these days. I have a feeling they aren't even considered. The new Charlatans albums is actually very very good.
I was really enjoying this Black Kids song this morning, I am not knocking it at all.
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Charlatans no, The Cure definitely. And in England I wouldn't be so sure about what is considered the classic rock type stuff and what isn't. I don't know where the Black Kids are from though.
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they are from Florida, of course.
The Cure get the respect for sure. Stone Roses, Happy Mondays, Ride, I have no idea.
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Being that influenced by a contemporary though (the Go Team) is always a little suspect.
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Kate Nash doing a cover of that song.
and The Twelves Remix
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Well, seeing as how the mainstream is on cycle 4 of recycled boybands and souless r&b pap, they are looking back to stuff that was novel before alternative was alternative as a buzzword, only now thinking they can cash in as fashionable, vs. echewing it as fringe music for indies 20 years ago.... I thought that trend was over when the Bravey & their ilk jumped the shark a year or so ago... I just haven't been paying attention, and I don't really dig this song... meh.
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Do you think it is as contrived as that? These guys don't seem that calculated, heavily influenced maybe, but I can't picture a record exec. constructing this type of band at all.
And I am not saying this song is Bohemian Rhapsody but it's pretty fun.
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I kinda do, maybe I'm too cynical...I don't think execs are "constructing" per se, but just like every genre still has its stalwarts regardless of how "now" that scene is, I semi-sorta-think an A&R / image type was scoping this type of act out....trying to get something "fresh / new / buzzworthy" to market before the next guy.
I'm probably entirely wrong.
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I mean how else do you explain the "popularity" of Vampire Weekend? I mean that record was pretty middling, but again, heavily influenced.
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the drum beat reminds me of every non-drummers best drum beat.
...if that makes any sense.
"what?"
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I think most fun music is just bands taking genres and mushing them together. I can't think of much stuff that has come out that is legitimate fun, everyone can dance to it stuff that isn't like this.
I mean Dan Deacon is tons of fun, but I don't think for a second it's fun for everyone.
Nothing is original and when you hear something original for the first time chances are your ears are so foreign to whatever is going on there is no way you will like it right off the bat. You need to develop a taste for it.
This is what I believe anyways.
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no doubt it takes a push for a band to rise about the din and get Rolling Stone to say you are the next big thing, but I don't fault the band for that, I think, lucky them.
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hahah yes!
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I'm influenced by the Go Team.
Roger
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Okay, seriously. I'm with Duncan on the feeling that record companies aren't looking for the next this or that anymore. I mean, really cutting edge A&R people at least. American Idol tells us different, but Simon Cowell isn't trying to predict the future, he's throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks.
In this day and age of instant media access, it's less and less in the hands of record companies to define what we hear. A band like the Black Kids, or the Ting Tings, Kate Nash, Lilly Allen or Go Team, etc.... especially noting that all of these acts have some sense of "fun" to their music (or at least the singles that we hear), their music can quickly spread virally through the internet (radio, blogs, plus satellite radio) and faster than an old-school cigar-chomping A&R guy can say "Milli Vanilli" they've got a zillion downloads under their belt and their already booked for Coachella.
Gabe is on the money in the fact that young acts today look at even music from 10 years ago as a bygone era, let alone a band like The Cure, who while still active today, had their greatest moment of influence in the mid-late 80's.
I think about that fact a lot. It's hard to wrap your head around the perspective of today's kids that are making the cutting edge music. It's truly amazing how limitless their access to all kinds of influential music is. That said, I still find it a little ho-hum when a modern band is taking their cues from one specific band or another. I'm more intrigued by the folks that are mixing up genres and influences like crazy. That's what makes me really excited about acts like M.I.A. for example.
I like that Black Kids song too. I agree that he sounds just like he's doing an impression of me back in 1988 doing my impression of Robert Smith. That said, the song is well done and though it may not find it's place in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame next to Stairway to Heaven, I'm happy to listen to it today.
Roger
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Gabe-
two things-
1. All music is just a mushing of a bunch of different influences/genres.
2. You must be kidding when you say you are suspect of current day influences
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"isn't trying to predict the future, he's throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks."
replace "he" with "the industry" and that's pretty much all I'm saying too, when it boils down to it, but obviously from a more cynical view. Not a matter of "what's the next big thing" anymore, but moreso the "last big underground thing" to ressurect & exploit...the Black Kids possibly being a "right place at the right time" scenario. But what do I know...I'm not in the "biz".
Meh. I'm over it. v;O)
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My point is that I think there there has been a major sea change in the "industry" and things aren't like they were even ten years ago. Even though the "Hit" radio format is still alive and well, and there is a very well-funded part of the industry that is popping Rhiannas and the like out of their Play-Doh Fun Factory, this seems less and less of the ultimate priority.
If you're familiar with the concept of the Long Tail Theory then you can see how big business (like the last remaining major record/media companies) are adapting to try to take advantage of more, and smaller irons in the fire, and not throwing so much money at a lot of high-profile mainstream acts. I could be way off as well, but it really seems that the last two years have marked a long-needed shift in how the big-budget music industry conducts it's business.
Bottom line, there are less old-school Simon Cowell/Clive Davis/Ahmet Ertegun (RIP) types steering the ships, and more younger and fresher folks paddling canoes with more acts that may take less money to produce/promote and therefore have a higher profit/expense ratio that, though less money than an act like Mariah Carey might have made in 1995, money is money and it eventually adds up.
Another sidenote I wanted to make is that it's great to see the music video medium back to life after years of Mtv's uselessness as far as promoting MUSIC is concerned. Youtube has really had a great effect on the music industry and you're seeing so much great independent or smaller-budget music videos lately. Two years ago, I would have never considered looking for a Black Kids video. Now Youtube has become one of my top three places to check out new music.
Roger
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"big business adapting to try to take advantage of more, and smaller irons in the fire, and not throwing so much money at a lot of high-profile mainstream acts.... there are less old-school Simon Cowell/Clive Davis/Ahmet Ertegun (RIP) types steering the ships, and more younger and fresher folks paddling canoes with more acts that may take less money to produce/promote and therefore have a higher profit/expense ratio that, though less money than an act like Mariah Carey might have made in 1995, money is money and it eventually adds up."
Again, agreed, and the same thing I was trying to say.
more "moderately-bankable", varied acts instead of "throwing all the eggs in one basket"Big acts...agreed...we're on the same page...
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look up Cars Can Be Blue.
same kind of shit, but its actually funnier...
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Michael really has a serious problem with my musical opinions.
That said I think he still has a very cute bottom.
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I first heard The Black Kids and "I'm Not Gonna Let My BF Teach You" a few months ago on BBC Radio ONE/ Channel 11 on your Sirius Radio dial.
I find that I like to listen to Radio One when I am looking to listen to pop/rock type shit because it is a bit more eclectic and seems to be ahead of what is being played here. and when I say "what is played here" I mean as opposed to other Sirius channels, because I don't listen to FM radio at all.
Like I have been digging the heck out of the Sam Sparro "Black and Gold" track that is in heavy rotation on BBC and Cage The Elephant's "Ain't No Rest For The Wicked" which is a band from Kentucky which has been getting alot of BBC play.