Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

duncan's picture
Yes
53% (18 votes)
No
15% (5 votes)
Same as it ever was
32% (11 votes)
Total votes: 34

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Brux's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

Yes. Not that it's bad necessarily. People want to hear what they know/like. If original music from us locals isn't cutting it, people still gotta be entertained!!

Louie's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

No, I don't think so, but anytime you wanna start that R.E.M. cover band I am there!

gaberollins's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

To scale I am sure it's the same as everywhere else.

punky's picture

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When I started hosting karaoke at McGuire's in March of 2006. I was looking to research other karaoke places in the area, and there were only 2 other places I could find, one in Auburn and one in Shrewsbury.
Now there is karaoke at Ralph's, Tammany,The Kas Bar, Jose Murphy's, The Center, PJ’s, two of the shady bars on Millbury Street and a bunch more. I think American Idol has everyone thinking they are a rockstar. I have 4 customers that have tried out for the show. They come to the dog and practice because they like our sound. It's all very silly.

duncan's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

Gabe can you elaborate on why you feel it hasn't changed?

Jeff's picture

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I don't think it's changed much. Still the same old issues: venues to have original gigs and having a fanbase to support it.

I'm not ashamed to admit I'm now in a cover band. All I have time for now but....our gigs tend to be privates or stuff we set up at a place and promote ourselves. Sometimes we get booked at a club for an opening set because our music fits in well with the headliners music. I love local original music and I like to write/record/gig my own stuff but I don't have the time to devote to it anymore. I'd rather be playing covers than not at all at this point.

Jeff

duncan's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

what band Jeff?

I don't have problem with Karaoke or cover bands, I have just noticed a lot more of both in the past few years.

Jeff's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

Hey Duncan,

We have met a few times and I've hung out with Ron a few times. I play bass and my "band" is Big Gunz. I did NOT choose that name. They were reforming after years of time off and they needed a bassist so the singer, whom I've known for 20 years asked me to join. It's mostly for fun and gets me out of the house. Some of it is not my favorite stuff to play but I doubt that Wilco or the Pogues would go over well with the peeps we play to...

We are playing saturday at the Singletary Rod and Gun Saturday. Benefit for Dana Farber .

Jeff

gaberollins's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

I think it has always been there, now it is just more within our realm of experience.

The covers thing I think there are simply more people that we happen to know doing it. I can always remember there being tons of cover bands. It does seem like more now that I know more people doing it.

Karaoke I think it's a couple things. One is the same as the cover bands. Ralph's, The Dog, Tammany, even Vincent's tried it for a very short period of time right? So there is way more karaoke within your radar screen.

Also there are simply more bars. Due to there being more bars I think that the bars are looking for more ways to bring people in. More ways to compete. "Everyone likes karaoke" they think to themselves.

So I guess after more thought, no, I don't think there are more cover bands. I think there is more live music, simply because there are more venues for that music, be it actual bands, or dudes in the corner with guitars, or dudes in the corner with guitars and small drum kits.

Same with karaoke, not more karaoke, just more bars trying to compete and figure out a way to do something that they think will bring people through the door.

duncan's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

gaberollins wrote:
Same with karaoke, not more karaoke, just more bars trying to compete and figure out a way to do something that they think will bring people through the door.

with Karaoke right? So not more karaoke just more bars doing karaoke. What a riddle.

I can't figure out how to prove any of this but I feel there is more karaoke that say five years ago. I will try and get some facts. I think the huge price drop in the hardware may have something to do with it.

I went to Karaoke at the Dog last night, fun times.

Linnea's picture

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Karaoke has been in Worcester for years, I remember in college we went a bunch of times. That place that used to be on Highland had it, was it Bravo? Club Car always had it. I know there were a bunch of places that did it 7 or 8 years ago because one of my friends was a Karaoke junkie, of course since I never liked it I tried to avoid going. I think now it's just invading places that I actually go to.

gaberollins's picture

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That's what I meant by my first comment Duncan.

More karaoke.

More dudes in corners with guitars.

More craft beer.

More scotch.

More outdoor drinking.

More! More! More!

There is simply more of everything than there was, say, 5 or 6 years ago. Seemingly though there is less original music. Less original music, or less people concentrating on playing live original music when there are MORE opportunities to make real actual money playing other peoples music?

duncan's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

When I said taking over, I meant that places that didn't normally have Karaoke or book cover band regularly, were doing it more often. That's what I mean by taking over. So in addition to the places that always had karaoke, there are now places that have it that never did.

If the Dog, Tammany and Ralph's put in ice cream machines I might suggest that ice cream machines are taking over the music venues. That isn't to say that ice cream machines didn't already exist, just that they were taking over.

I bet ice cream would bring in more people to karaoke, so feel free to run with this idea club owners.

duncan's picture

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gaberollins wrote:
That's what I meant by my first comment Duncan.

More karaoke.

More dudes in corners with guitars.

More craft beer.

More scotch.

More outdoor drinking.

More! More! More!

There is simply more of everything than there was, say, 5 or 6 years ago. Seemingly though there is less original music. Less original music, or less people concentrating on playing live original music when there are MORE opportunities to make real actual money playing other peoples music?

alright then you agree, it's taking over. nice

gaberollins's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

Taking over Worcester or taking over your realm of existence in Worcester? Linnea's point is more the one I was trying to make. It's always been here, now it's just coming into the places where most people you know who go out in Worcester spend most of their time. I think cover bands and karaoke took over a long long time ago. I think they possibly always had control.

duncan's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

Gabe you're not following me or maybe I am not following you.

yes I hang out in music clubs mostly. For years, no Karaoke. Now, much Karaoke. That's what I am saying.

gaberollins's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

Right and I agree, yes, taking over our little corner of Worcester, but they have ruled greater Worcester for quite some time.

duncan's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

so wouldn't that mean more karaoke Gabe? If places that didn't have it before now do, and nothing has changed elsewhere?

Jeff's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

IMO on the karaoke thing the club/bar owners are just trying to bring more patrons throught the door. I'm not a big fan of getting up and doing karaoke but it can be mighty entertaining to watch.

Jeff

gaberollins's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

And I think karaoke in general has become more excepted as okay by the hipper than thou crowd which is why I really won't ever go to the Ralph's karaoke. The best part about karaoke is the total mix of people. I don't think you will find anyone at Ralph's belting out Alan Jackson songs and meaning it.

Punky, you should come out to Cambridge some time when we go to Courtside. It is really really awesome. Duncan you have been there before right?

gaberollins's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

It's all in the wording Duncan.

The title of the thread is "Are karaoke nights and cover bands taking over Worcester?"

My stance is that no they are not taking over, they have always ruled and been the music majority along with DJ's. Even more so than DJ's.

Yes they are taking over our realm of nightlife in the city.

Yes there are more of them.

Erinnn's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

Are the karaoke nights successful or is it the promotion and idea that's taking over?

duncan's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

I have been there Gabe, seemed like a good time but I didn't stay long.

and to your point Jeff, I am sure they are just trying to bring in some people and karaoke is certainly entertaining.

I am totally not opposed to either cover bands or karaoke, I did after all start a live band karaoke show.

www.thesongshow.com

duncan's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

gaberollins wrote:
It's all in the wording Duncan.

The title of the thread is "Are karaoke nights and cover bands taking over Worcester?"

My stance is that no they are not taking over, they have always ruled and been the music majority along with DJ's. Even more so than DJ's.

Yes they are taking over our realm of nightlife in the city.

Yes there are more of them.

Gabe if there are more of them, doesn't that mean taking over? jeesh.

gaberollins's picture

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duncan wrote:
I am totally not opposed to either cover bands or karaoke, I did after all start a live band karaoke show.

www.thesongshow.com

Which needs to happen again, and soon. And with more schmaltzy 70's soft rock.

duncan's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

regarding The Song Show, I am trying to figure out a way to do it semi-regularly and build a night with it. I can't expect the band and myself to learn and play 150+ songs for free so making it financial viable is the obstacle. Right now, a weekend night is the only way to make it happen really.

punky's picture

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Its pretty successful (for me at least), At mcguires I hosted it on thursdays and it was always packed and I now host it at the Dog on mondays and it does better then any other thing we tried to do on monday night.

Erinnn's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

Do any of the cover bands pay attention to these nights? Seems like a good way to find out fun songs that people want to hear.

punky's picture

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I will also say when I started bartending at the dog in 2005, We had cover bands come through about once a month, We have a few a week now.

Most bands lately are slacking off in the promotions department.
I remember a few years back, I Knew what was going on at every club every night of the week. Now bands will post one bulletin on myspace and a hour later be ordering a drink from me asking why its so dead. Because you're a lazy ass, thats why!! When did become soul responsibility of the club to promote your show?

gaberollins's picture

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There just isn't alot of excitement around original music anymore it seems. Not in the clubs anyways. I am going to my first Forbes St show on Thursday to see Deer Tick. I will report back on my findings. I am most likely going to ask the people there a lot of questions about why they will go see Deer Tick in some Worcester basement but probably wouldn't go see them at Ralph's or the Vernon or anywhere else.

My thought on house shows was always that they were a DIY thing. You had them because you couldn't have those kind of shows anywhere else. But there is more to it than that, because you can take a bill of those same house show bands, and let all the house show people know about it and still no one comes. That Orange Ocean release was mobbed and most of the people there were over 21. Are they going to draw like that next time they play Ralph's or the Dog?

Sorry, this has nothing to do with cover bands or karaoke.

duncan's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

I don't think it has to do with cover band or karaoke either.

I think seeing original music in Worcester is a chore, you have to deal with douchebag door people, shitty sound and then you get bands that maybe aren't that good.

There is a reason why you might just stop in Ryles in Boston or The Blue Note in NYC, they have a reputation for great quality. There is no reputation for anything resembling quality here. There is tons of quality though! The reputation is what is lacking, so you basically have a constantly withering group of people who are replaced just a little less often than they drop off.

Original bands should be figuring out how they can tap into successful nights like the Flock night to get noticed. I'll have to ask Erick if he has had luck with opening acts on Thursday turning into headlining acts on Friday and Saturday. It is a tremendous opportunity for him to grow some real great live shows on other nights.

gaberollins's picture

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I don't think there is too much quality anymore. Even if I was going to ask a band to play stripped down I am finding it very hard to come up with bands for FF that are from here.

I will say this though. The bands that are good, are really fucking good.

MelleYeah's picture

Re: Are Karaoke nights & Cover Bands taking over Worcester?

"Taking over" definatly implies that Worcester is on its way to being the Karaoke/Cover Capital of the state (or World depending on how ambitious your mind is). I think it might be more of a trend, or busness strategy. As a business, you have to do what the guy across the street is doing to keep your head above water. The key to this strategy is tweaking it to make it a little different and better than the guy acoss the street....but thats a bit of a digression

A bigger digression: and I don't want to hijack this thread, but Punky's last comment got me fired up, I think bands and clubs need to share responsability in promotion, and think that over the past 10 years both parties have gotten lazy. And Myspace isnt helping.


Erinnn's picture

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To go off topic again with house shows...

Almost all of the shows I went to last summer were in grungey moist basements. There's not just Forbes St, there's the Firehouse, the Meathouse, Stone Soup, The GoGo, etc. I saw tons of bands in those houses that I had no idea existed and I continue to go back and see them. I think they draw big crowds because they have a reputation for having a good fun atmosphere. When bands play those shows, they draw because the house has that reputation, the residents' friends hear about it, the bands promote themselves, and people that regularly go will promote it. They're all ages too.

Chick-n-Little's picture

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Ducan,

I really hope you can get the song show going again. I had a blast at the last one.

And I really really hope Erick reads the post about Ice cream machines.... great idea!

Kate

punky's picture

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I agree its both party's responsibility. Every week I see Erick bust in his butt to promote 723964905 shows while some bands barely say a word. I don't remember it ever being like that. I think bands use to put a lot more effort in. I'm not saying all bands, no need to get defensive.