300

duncan's picture

I saw 300 Saturday, I thought it was pretty lame.

Things I liked:

Great battle scenes, lots of blood, swords and spears.

visual effects were nice, I liked the style and color of the movie, the detail during the battles and the overall feel of the movie. The spectacular shots of the giant Persian armies were great. I especially loved the scene (don't want to spoil here) that looked like a Bosch painting.

Things that I didn't like:

The comic relief and the sort of modern style of  inflection and way of speaking was silly.

It was the same battle, over and over, for hours.

The heavy metal guitar music out of nowhere halfway through the movie.

Were the Persians really drag queens?

A lot of the movie seemed decidedly digital. Many of the antagonists in the movie were made to look supernatural and larger than life, and it looked fake.

 

 

nytmare's picture

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I went into the movie with the mindset that I was seeing a comic book on the big screen. Granted loosely based on actual history but a comic book nonetheless.

To that effect, humor, modernizing elements and things that make you have to suspend belief to get into were not a problem.

That being said, if you are going to show me a giant fat beast of a man with jagged bone saws as hands, I want to see the Spartans fight him!

barry's picture

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 You do know that this was an adaptation of a comic right? Did you have the same issues with Sin City? I do agree that the Nu-Metal music was a surprise and seemed out of place but other than that, I thought the dialoge was true to the original and the whole movie was visually stunning, a modern Ben Hur in my book. I saw it on a digital screen in Millbury, not sure how it looked analog.

 A funny note on society...A father and his 11 or 12 year old son sat in fromt of us and the father covered his sons eyes during the nude scenes, no problem with the violence though.  


I know What I Like And I Like What I Know

duncan's picture

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Yes, I knew it was a comic, doesn't change a thing for me. I know all of the reasons I am supposed to think this movie was any good.

I still haven't seen Sin City (I know, I am stupid).

RyanMaleyofRohan's picture

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I love the dialogue in this movie. I also love how it is being told by a Spartan story teller, so the persians are monsters, and disgusting subhumans.

I do like the comic better, but the movie touched up on a few other things, and left some of the book out. They are both perfect in their own ways.

I too wish that the man with saw arms was a bigger player in the battles.

I also think that every girl in this movie was incredibly hot.

But Frank Miller is awesome: that goat totally caught me off guard.

Fanny's picture

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I loved it. I agree with the reasons you gave Ryan and Nyt.

I also dug all the eye candy on hand for the ladies. It was kind of nice to be looking at oceans of abs and real boobies, little ones even.

I honestly didn't see any difference between the battle scenes of this movie as compared with something like Braveheart. One of the things I heard from people is that it was "thin on plotline." But I also thought that was comparable to Braveheart.

I had spent all week watching the history channel do stories on the barbarian cultures and this particular battle itself. So knowing the real history and the real implications of the history certainly helped me enjoy it. As well as the appreciation of the comic.

Duncan, I'm not trying to convince you that you're wrong for not liking the film. Perhaps you wouldn't have gone to see the movie in another situation. Or if I told you, "hey that 300 movie is based on this comic that the Sin City guy wrote," you might not have even bothered. It ain't your thang. That's coo. In fact, I think it's an important thing to know before you walk into it. I don't like gangster/mob movies. If I walked into Casino thinking it was a movie about lounge singers I'd have been unhappy.


All done with nice.

duncan's picture

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you'll forget this movie existed in a year. nya nya nya

Fanny's picture

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dude i'm lucky if i remember that i saw this movie next week. :)

paxton's picture

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Barry, was the funny book as much of a bore?

nytmare's picture

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interview with the guy who did the score

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=407038

barry's picture

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How can you say it was boring? Didn't you hear the Metal music halfway through?

I thought it represented the book well and the cinematography was amazing. It was not an action film. No snappy "Rush Hour" dialogue or "Matrix" like action. It was meant to be a larger than life semi-historical film.

paxton's picture

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The cinematography was astounding, absolutely beautiful and I could watch people get hacked to bits all day long. Other than that, the movie has zero redeeming qualities (well the tits were very nice). At least by the end of Braveheart any normal person will feel compelled to run out and slay a tyrant or two, after this I felt compelled to nap.

Heres a pretty good wrap up of the historical problems, if you're into that sort of thing.
http://www.livescience.com/history/070312_300_movie.html

Ronaldo's picture

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I liked the movie, for the most part, because on the rare occasion that I actually DO go to the movies, I want a bit of escapism...whether this is an historical account or a cartoon, I think the movie was done with alot of flair, style, but had it's fair share of stumbles...

 What I took out of the overall presentation was that the story was being presented in the same, grandiose style that someone might spin folklore or legend in a lively tongue...in these cases, the bad guys are always bigger or more exotic, the foes that much more unstoppable as to further drive home the concept that these mere 300 souls fought off such impossible odds...that is why I figured Xerxes was that much taller than Leonides, and the Immortal were that much more "supernatural"...  that's how it always works in folklore....

 edit: I loved the cinematography, thought the speed up slow down presentation of the fighting scenes were cool, if a tad Matrix-like, too often fight scenes are just too garbled and you can't key in on what is going on because it is so grand in scale...so the intercutting was really cool... the choice of color tones in the movie were unique, the costume design (love them loincloths) was at least for the Spartans, from what I gather, pretty correct (it's been said that anything more would've slowed them down) and thought set design was neat...I thought the wolf at the beginning was terribly cool.

 As for character development, there were really only two or three central characters that I feel we were meant to "care" about and they were fleshed out, at the very least, adequately. We KNOW why Leonides was fighting. We KNOW the bad guy on the council had his motives. etc. etc.  Any more exposition would only weigh the movie down, and sure, the fight scenes were endless and long in the tooth, but really, 1) it's a graphic novel, and 2) there's a "wow" factor" to maintain.

 Do I think this movie will go down as a "great"? No. But I was entertained. It did it's job...aside from the cheesy buddy buddy one liners, the one thing that stuck out the most as a "stumble" was the quite uncomfortable love scene...not presented very well:

"My love, I'm off to battle, ASSUME MULTIPLE POSITIONS!"- to laugh.

 

Ron 

 


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duncan's picture

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that review doesn't make the movie sound very good, even though you're saying you liked it Ron.

you always did love Ru Paul so you must have been psyched to see him/her starring as a Persian villian.

Ronaldo's picture

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Well, I could go on about what I did like about the movie, but it would have made the post twice as long....I guess what I liked most was the way you gripped my hand tighter upon your realisation it was RuPaul...

duncan's picture

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the fact that you wore the same exact spandex banana hammock and shaved your chest then covered it in oil they way the Spartans did, really made me proud to be in the same aisle as you.

Ronaldo's picture

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Of course, anything to get into the spirit of the movie, much like the way you love when I wear my Stormtrooper helmet when....

 

Oh, and it wasn't oil, it was imitation butter, I'm not a clean eater. Sorry. 

duncan's picture

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"I know you love it when I rub your thumb like this, but I have a giant army to assemble and my chest is all stubble. Do you have any lotion?"

 

paxton's picture

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Ron, if I remember correctly you were also compelled to defend the Star Wars prequels. I think I see a trend here.

Ronaldo's picture

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Yeah Buck, no argument there, ya got me...

 

RyanMaleyofRohan's picture

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I like the comic better. It's less reliant on action in the comic: The movie would have been boring without it (it would have been pointless to make into a movie), but the comic is cool either way.
The comics has more of the Spartans being biased and racist, which is excellent. Also none of the stuff with the queen in Sparta happens in the book.

Frank Miller is incredible.

Craiglucantus's picture

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saw it last night. no review from me.
just you guys are all wrong and this movie is awesome.


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Fanny's picture

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Not all of us buddy. :)